First one done... while I sat there waiting, I figured I would take a picture to set into reality the size of the needle that I take weekly (which I can turn into "took weekly" after Friday) This is the same size needle that I get for my p17 shots too... if you look at the picture, you will see a cap on the syringe.... if you look there is a grayish area at the opening of the cap, from that grayish area, to the tip of the cap, that's ALL needle!! OUCH is right!!!

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